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Title: Innovation In Salat?
Description: Difference in salat question


darknight - April 8, 2006 03:51 AM (GMT)
:salam:

I was just reading this book at http://www.alislam.org/books/salat/06.html on methods of offering prayer/salat and I noticed three things that are different from the orthodox Muslims salat. I tried looking up references but found none on the NET other then on Alislam.org. So I was wondering if anyone can shed some light as to where these innovation came from and how they were introduced into salat.


1. Intention of Salat (Niyyat)
-Inni wajjahtu wajhiya lillathi fataras samawati wal ardha hanifan wama ana minal mushrikin

2. Prayer between Sajdah's
-Allahummaghfir li warhamni wahdini wa 'afini warfa 'ni wajburni warzuqni

3. Prayers after Durood
-Rabbana atina fiddunya hasanatan wa fil akhirati hasanatan waqina athabannar.
-Rabbij 'alni muqimas-Salati wamin Thur-riyyati. Rabbana wa taqabbal du 'a. Rabbanaghfir li waliwalidayya wal lil-mu'minina yauma yaqumul hisab.
-'Allahumma inni a 'uThu bika minal-hammi- wal-huzni, wa a 'uThu bika minal ajzi wal kasli, wa a'uThu bika minal-jubni wal- bukhli. Wa a'uTh bika min ghalabatid-daini wa qahrir-rijal.
-Allahum-ma inni zhalamtu nafsi zhulman kathiran wa la yaghfiruTh-dhunuba illa anta,faghfir lee maghfiratan min 'indika wa arhamni innaka antal Ghafoorur Raheem.
-Allahumma inni a 'uThu bika min 'athabil-qabri wa a'uThu bika min fitnatil-masihid- dajjal. Wa a'uThu bika min fitnatil mahya wa fitnatil mamat. Allahumma inni a'uThu bika minal ma'thami wal maghram.


:ws

Zubair - April 8, 2006 02:25 PM (GMT)
:salam:

These are relatively minor differences. We should focus our attention more on the observance of the salaat with it's true spirit and sincere intentions.

In any case, though I am not a Mufti or Scholar, I do know that the prayer of intention (niyyah) is from the Holy Qur'an itself, as are the first two prayers in your list of those to be recited after the Durood.

The other three are probably from the ahadith, or perhaps something which the Promised Messiah a.s. himself recited. I do not really know. In my case, I offer some additional supplications of my own which are not even in the book or in your list, such as:

La ilaaha illa anta subhaanaka; Inni kuntu minathzaalimeen.
Allahumma ajalni minattawwaabeena wajalni minal mutatahhireen.

Allahumma a-inni alaa zhikrika wa shukrika wa husni 'ibaadatika.
Allahumma innaka afuwwan tuhibbul afwa fa'fu anni.


And so on. Can there be any harm to the soul from such additional voluntary supplications?

:ws

sarmad - April 12, 2006 06:41 PM (GMT)
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sarmad - April 12, 2006 06:48 PM (GMT)
Darknight wrote:
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So I was wondering if anyone can shed some light as to where these innovation came from and how they were introduced into salat.

1. Intention of Salat (Niyyat)
-Inni wajjahtu wajhiya lillathi fataras samawati wal ardha hanifan wama ana minal mushrikin


Brother, the purpose of establishment of Jamat was not to innovate things in the Religion but to bring it back to its Pure & Beautiful Shape in which the Holy Prophet (saw) left it. The Holy Prophet (saw) use to start the Salah with a beautiful and thought provoking prayer of Holy Quran. This prayer beautifully fits at this occasion (i.e. the start of Salah) because it reminds one that he/she must now wholeheartedly turn all of his thoughts and intentions towards the Creator. And thus comes out of the material world, for a while at least, with all this thoughts and intentions. Thus the translation of this very relevant prayer of Holy Quran is “Surely I have turned myself, wholly to Him Who created the heavens and the earth, and I am not of those who associates gods with Him”(6: 80.)

Just imagine that how Mullahs have later changed this prayer with local language intentions like "I intent to offer so and so prayer behind so and so Mullah......". Thus instead of turning all of his intentions towards Allah, Mullah turned the intentions of their followers towards them.

As far as your view that only Ahmadi Muslims start their Salah with this prayer is also wrong. Actually, at the time of Promised Messiah (A.S) the beauty of Islam was scattered among various school of thoughts. Every sect/school of thought possessed some of its beauties while everyone has lost many of its beauties. Ahmadiyat has come to collect and re-assemble all Islam’s beauties into one Jamat once again.

So, a part from Ahmadi, few other school of thought also follow this Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (saw). For reference visit http://www.al-islam.edu.pk/prayer/sec10.htm where you will find this prayer mentioned at the start of Salah. This website belongs to Jamia Ashrafia Lahore. Copy of relevant portion of the site is as follows:

Modes of Prayer

After Wudzu (Ablution), one must go to praying place with proper dress and, standing in the place of prayer, he must recite in silence after facing the Holy Ka’ba.
Inni wajjahtu wajhhiya lillazi fatara ‘s-samawati wa ‘ larda hanifan wa ma ana mina’l mushrikin.
Surely I have turned myself, being upright, wholly to Him Who originated the heavens and the earth, and I am not of the polytheists.(6: 80.)


Orthodox - April 25, 2006 10:01 PM (GMT)
Ahmadis and Hanafis in MY view and opinion do not pray according to the accurate and most authentic sunnah of the Prophet (sa). They use Ahadith found in Abu Dawood, while those who follow the Salaf, or any of the other schools - Maliky, Shafi'i, Hanbali (notice 3 out of 4), and also the Shia (incl. Twelvers, Zaydis, and Jafris) all rafa'a dayn - raise the hands upon opening takbir, before going to rakoo, and before going into sajda (found in Sahih Al Bukhari - note there is no other way described in Bukhari except for this way). They also say salaam and move ever posture AFTER the Imam (except for Shia), say Aameen loudly and lengthly (except for Shia), and fill gaps quite conservatively (foot to foot, shoulder to shoulder) (Ahmadis don't do the foot to foot - (astauoo atadehu).

Doesn't really matter to me, but I thought I'd add my two cents to the thread while I'm visiting.




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